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Cold Steel – Man At Arms Collection – Messer Sword

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(4 customer reviews)
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    Cold Steels Man at Arms Messer is constructed with a forged, tempered and sharpened blade of 1090 high carbon steel; the blade is finished with a deep bluing treatment to blacken the blade. The guard and pommel are blued steel and the wooden grip is well-polished and stained. The companion scabbard for the messer is black leather with a blued chape and throat locket.

    This contemporary version of the Messer is fitted with a large knuckle-guard that doubles as a knuckle-duster – it is placed far enough from the grip to ensure it does not interfere with even a large hand on the grip. The clamshell nagel imparts improved defense for the sword hand.

    A robust chopper with a pronounced clipped thrusting tip, this practical Messer is every bit a mean and nasty chopper as it looks. Well able to intimidate the opposition and hack its way to victory on the Renaissance battlefield or in a self-defense scrum.

    Overall Length28''
    Blade Length21 7/8''
    Weight1 lb 15.5 oz
    EdgeSharp
    Width43.3 mm
    Thickness4.1 mm - 2 mm
    PommelNut
    P.O.B.1 3/4''
    Grip Length4 1/4''
    Blade [1090 High Carbon Steel]
    TypeMesser
    ClassBattle Ready
    CultureGerman
    ManufacturerCold Steel
    Country of OriginIndia

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    4 reviews for Cold Steel – Man At Arms Collection – Messer Sword

    1. James Whitworth

      Great handling but not accurate. Overall this is a awesome sword. It’s lighter than even my Hanwei oxtail dao. It’s also solidly constructed. My biggest gripe is that it’s not technically a messer because it’s not a true full tang. If it was built like a knife with a full tang with wood scales it would be much more accurate and probably much better built. My biggest issue with many Cold Steel swords is that a lot of them have hidden tangs that are glued in place. As a result you can’t really see how big the tang is or how it’s constructed. Despite that this is very solid and of course it’s low maintenance being blued. Plus it’s hard to beat the price.

    2. Raul Cenan

      I got this sword a little while ago. I do like the design and handling a lot, however I wasn’t quite happy with the grip shape (tapers together too much at the guard) so I wanted to make my own custom grip. Sounds easy enough, the tang is threaded so I unscrewed the nut holding it in place then proceeded to use a rubber mallet to knock on the guard to get the grip off. Firstly, the grip is on pretty tight so that’s a good thing if you do not intend to mess/customize the sword. Everything was going good until I noticed that the knuckle-bow started to break at the 90 degrees “bend”. it basically turns out that the construction of the guard is in several steel core pieces which are surrounded by some softer cast metal (iron?) and the steel core pieces are not welded together so if exposed to repeated impact the outer casting will break. I did not hammer very hard on it, just enough to knock the grip loose but it was enough to break the guard. It’s really a shame as the design of the guard (visually) is quite nice but the construction method is questionable. As far as James’s worry about the tang goes: the tang is fairly burly with just a short piece of thread on the end and it appears that the threaded part is not welded on but a part of the actual tang that is threaded, so the blade and tang should be pretty strong. Again, it’s not a bad sword and looks good for the money but the knuckle-bow cannot take any impacts due to the construction. So if anybody wants to customize the grip: DON’T unless you want to break the knuckle-bow. I wonder if cold steel sell the guard as a separate piece? Right now I’m looking into repairing the broken knuckle bow with some silver solder… might be stronger than the original but it will ruin the finish… or I could make my own guard out of ONE PIECE of steel but that’s a lot of work. I also sharpened the false edge on mine and did some extensive sharpening compared to the factory edge. I will make a custom deer antler grip for it since I already took it apart.
      Bottom line: it’s a good sword for the price if you don’t intend to mess with it but do not use the knuckle bow for any sort of impacts as it might break on you. I am not particularly sour at Cold Steel since I decided to mess with the product and it wasn’t very expensive, but for future reference the knuckle bow connection should be welded underneath the outer casting to make it an actual structural piece.

    3. Robert E Malecek (verified owner)

      Good cutter, a few durability concerns.

      I bought this sword for recreational cutting, big game (hog) dispatch, and sabrage. The sword looks good and came with a keen edge, but I’ve had a few problems I feel are worth mentioning.

      When it first arrived I used it to cut a few boxes, a few bottles, and a a few 20-25 mm green Aspen shoots, but while it cut all of those cleanly and with authority, the Aspen shoots were enough to loosen the hilt on the blade. Attempting to tighten the hilt with the pommel nut caused the wooden grip to crack before the hilt tightened up (the hilt has stayed tight since I tightened the pommel nut and cracked the grip). I had intended to replace the grip material with bone or antler anyways, so I’m not heartbroken about the grip, but considering this sword’s reputation as a fearsome cutter on a budget, it should be mentioned in my review.

      Second, the chape and throat doesn’t seem to have been debured before they finished the metal, and they are moderately sharp. But you didn’t buy this sword for the sheathe.

      The edge has held up to the cutting that loosened the hilt and to all the cutting since then, including a test on fresh flesh and bone (the shanks of a roadkilled deer), until I used it for sabrage for the first time, whereupon it rolled the edge quite severely.

      I’ll be able to re-profile the blade to have a more robust edge, but I’ve used knives with keener edges to sabre champagne before without damage (specifically a K-bar plain edge and a Buck 120) and I’m a little disappointed that I won’t be able to keep the very keen factory edge, and it’s admirable performance on the mixed targets I’ve so far subjected it to except (except the champagne bottle glass). Hopefully I’m able to find a profile that cuts aggressively but strengthens the edge enough to continue to use this sword for sabrage.

    4. GreenFlamingo

      note: I purchased both my Cold Steel Man-At-Arms Messers from outside of Kult of Athena, however the two I got were both the real deal and so this review should apply to those buying from Kult of Athena as well. I got one to just have on display in my room and the other to use and have a more “battle-worn” look to it.

      In summary, this sword is probably one of the best one-handed cutters you can get for under $300. The sword is good-looking, it handles very well, cuts very well, and is durable; the scabbard could be better but otherwise this is a phenomenal sword and is definitely worth checking out if you’re looking for a $300 one-handed Messer.

      Out of the box the sword itself was perfect, the edge came sharp enough to cut out of the box (the sword could use a sharpening with a 2000 grit stone out of the box for a perfect edge, but if you want to use the sword out of the box it’s absolutely sharp enough). The blade’s blued steel finish looks gorgeous in person. The guard has no wobble and no sharp spots, its nicely finished. The shell-guard style nail is a nice touch, feels very high quality. The handle itself feels nice in the hand as well, the edges of the wood handle is very comfortable once you hold the sword right. The pommel is not historically accurate (Messers typically use a knife-style construction with handle scales sandwiched around the tang), but it feels well finished again with no sharp spots or anything. The blade put together is very solid with no apparent fit and finish issues.

      The only exception to the build quality is the scabbard; I purchased two of these swords and both scabbards came with the metal fittings on the ends of the scabbards having fallen off before I even took the swords out of the boxes; putting the metal fittings back on the tips of the scabbards and giving them some light taps with a rubber mallet fixed the problem. This could be a problem specific to where I bought my swords, but don’t be surprised if the scabbard isn’t the same build quality as the sword itself.

      As for how it cuts, the blade geometry is excellent for most targets; The sword has no trouble with soda cans, water bottles, soda bottles, half and half cartons, milk jugs, I also tried the sword against soaked cardboard rolls and all cuts were clean on the factory edge. The point of balance is a bit more towards the handle than I expected out of a cutting-oriented sword but it meant the sword felt very nimble when doing multiple cuts on a single target. The point of percussion (also known as the sweet spot) is about 12-16″ from the start of the blade, tip cuts also seem to do very well, though I’ve not had much luck with the meaty portion of the blade when testing deep cuts, some of this part of my review could be that I’m still an inexperienced cutter who’s only been seriously practicing sword cutting for about 4 months so take this paragraph with a grain of salt.

      In terms of durability, I’ve had this sword for about 4 months now, being taken out for some cutting practice 1-2 times each week. Starting with edge retention, the factory edge dulled out at around the 2 month mark, I have yet to need to resharpen the sword for a 2nd time. As for resistance to edge damage; so far I’ve whacked the sword into the thick metal lip of soda cans more times than I can count by now and none of said bad cuts resulted in any noticeable edge damage, accidentally bonking the sword into the stand several times only resulted in a couple burrs. One of my friends accidentally stabbed concrete with this sword trying to “finish” the now-fallen cardboard roll, and the damage to the tip was minimal. the burrs were fixed with just a couple seconds on the honing rod and the tip was fixed in about 5 minutes by reshaping the tip with 800 grit whetstone and then resharpening to 2000 grit like the rest of the blade; nowhere near as severe damage as I was expecting when I messed up several times. The blued finish has a couple scratches from those times I accidentally hit the metal lip of soda cans, the most noticeable wear this sword has taken is that the blackened wood handle has turned into a much nicer looking dark brown grainy color; the part where the hand rubs against the guard and pommel also have been slowly turning more silver-grey, so the coating definitely isn’t perfect but this is cosmetic damage only.

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